PLEASE, folks, don't cross-post stuff between Firewalls and BugTraq. What's appropriate in terms of postings and replies is different for each list. When somebody cross-posts a message, the replies also get cross-posted, and usually lead to a flame fest on one list or the other. If you really feel something is appropriate for both lists (which is rare, I think; they have fairly different charters), then post a separate message to each list. -Brent ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For info about the Internet Security Firewalls Tutorial and a schedule of upcoming dates, please send email to Tutorial-Info@GreatCircle.COM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brent Chapman Great Circle Associates Brent@GreatCircle.COM 1057 West Dana Street +1 415 962 0841 Mountain View, CA 94041